Michael B. Horn, the co-founder of the Clayton Christensen Institute for Disruptive Innovation, sits down with Education Next Editor-in-chief Marty West to discuss how to juggle the different paths through college, from the options in traditional higher education to certificate first programs.

Horn and co-author Clark G. Gilbert explored certificate-first programs further in an article for Education Next, “A Certificate, Then a Degree.”

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