Josh Dunn talks with Education Next about continuing efforts by New York City Chancellor Joel Klein to close chronically failing schools–despite a ruling by a state court that the closings could not proceed–using a federal School Improvement Grant.

For the article that inspired the podcast, please see “Educational Providence: State courts close one door, federal money opens another,” by Joshua Dunn, which will appear in the Winter 2011 issue of Education Next and is now available online.